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Post by Holyjoe on Sept 18, 2004 20:52:34 GMT -5
Aye.. wonder if they embellish their crowd figures like the K-League do. And anyway, there are around three times as many people in Japan able to go to matches - it's like wondering why there were more folk at Ewood Park than at Dens yesterday
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Post by SteveW on Sept 18, 2004 21:13:49 GMT -5
Nah the crowds looked genuine....every ground except Tokyo seemed to be fairly full.
And I doubt there are 3 times as many people in Urawa as there are in Seoul!! I don't even know if Urawa is a place or where it is!!!
Big discussion about Jo Jae Jin on the highlights show ...dunno what they were saying but it sounded like fdshfjhsdgjfhgdsjfhgafhgiqfkjsafknbdjhdsifbs Jo Jae Jin fgksdfiseufkjbaskjfhkasjhfoueqhfjabskfdj Jo Jae Jin jfgjdhgfjhdsgfjhsdgjfhgdsjfhgsdjfhgakfhlkasjfa.
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Post by ironops on Sept 21, 2004 11:24:08 GMT -5
Urawa are a bit of a special case. They are one club I think not just K-League but other clubs elsewhere could learn a lot from. That's because they've worked damned hard over a number of years at establishing real and deep roots in their local community and a little bit beyond too. So now they've got a really impressive base of hardcore support. Even when they went down to J2 they retained decent, if not spectacular crowds. Iwata are one of the most successful clubs in Japan and have done similar work to Urawa in building up grassroots support. Most J-League clubs though, aren't doing an enormous lot better than their K-League equivalents in filling their stadia. Urawa, BTW, was one of the cities amalgamated to make Saitama City just north-west of Tokyo. Urawa play in the Saitama Stadium which was one of the World Cup venues. I presume you've figured out where to find English J-League info by now. If not, it's www.j-league.or.jp
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Post by SteveW on Sept 21, 2004 23:13:14 GMT -5
Urawa are a bit of a special case. They are one club I think not just K-League but other clubs elsewhere could learn a lot from. That's because they've worked damned hard over a number of years at establishing real and deep roots in their local community and a little bit beyond too. So now they've got a really impressive base of hardcore support. Even when they went down to J2 they retained decent, if not spectacular crowds. Iwata are one of the most successful clubs in Japan and have done similar work to Urawa in building up grassroots support. Most J-League clubs though, aren't doing an enormous lot better than their K-League equivalents in filling their stadia. Urawa, BTW, was one of the cities amalgamated to make Saitama City just north-west of Tokyo. Urawa play in the Saitama Stadium which was one of the World Cup venues. I presume you've figured out where to find English J-League info by now. If not, it's www.j-league.or.jpYeah, thanks for that..I did check that site out though. Its handy for schedules and the like but doesn't give much info or discussion on the teams. Some of the team websites don't even give player names in English so its a bit confusing at the moment. I was hoping there might be a www.footballinjapan.com somewhere but it seems not
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Post by Holyjoe on Sept 21, 2004 23:38:30 GMT -5
You could check out the Big Soccer Asia & Middle East section for some English language J-League nonsense...
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Post by ironops on Sept 22, 2004 21:34:44 GMT -5
Yeah, thanks for that..I did check that site out though. Its handy for schedules and the like but doesn't give much info or discussion on the teams. Some of the team websites don't even give player names in English so its a bit confusing at the moment. I think the J-League site is a lot better than the K-League site, but the trouble is Japan is a fair bit less internet advanced than Korea: so whilst in Korea, no-one's bothered that the K-League site's a bit crap as there's plenty of other stuff around, even in English, in Japan there really ain't much at all. J-League club sites don't offer a lot either, so I don't think you're missing much by not being able to read them, if that cheers you up at all. One possibly useful tip for the J-League site - on the English page grey menu on the left, there's "club profile" and "club data" at the top. Club profile is a waste of time with just the addresses, a few other bits and a link to the usually useless and devoid of English club sites. Club data, however, takes you to a link to complete squad lists for every team with a decent amount of info, although not in very easy on the eye format. Anyway, not sure how long you're in Japan, but feel free to give me a shout (PM or whatever) if there's anything you want any help with.
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Post by SteveW on Oct 2, 2004 10:19:05 GMT -5
Born: 24th June 1983, has represented Korea at U16, U17 and U20 level - that's all the information I can find about him! A few more Koreans in Japan, these guys are current U20 internationals: Lee Kang-jin (18, Tokyo Verdy) Oh Jang-eun (19, FC Tokyo) Apparently Lee Kang Jin is ex-Suwon HJ....do some investigating
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Post by Holyjoe on Oct 2, 2004 21:18:08 GMT -5
Well shockeroony... SteveW is right about something! Born on 27th March 1987, Lee Kang-jin joined Suwon in 2002, but made only one substitute appearance coming on as a sub in a 3-1 defeat away to Bucheon ( ) at the tail end of 2003. He's represented Korea at U14, U15, U16, U17 and U20 level. Any other crap you want to know about him?
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Post by nyujeelandsaram on Oct 3, 2004 5:26:53 GMT -5
How come they dropped him from the Under 18 and Under 19 teams?
Can I get in the Korean foreigners Under 29 team?
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Post by Holyjoe on Oct 4, 2004 21:52:08 GMT -5
Ah... Lee Kang-jin is still a Suwon player, but he's on a one year loan to Tokyo Verdy.
I'm guessing there's a foreign player limit in the J-League too, and it seems strange that Verdy would use up one of their slots loaning a youngster from Suwon reserves.
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Post by justintheus on Oct 6, 2004 15:44:43 GMT -5
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