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Post by redneck13 on Sept 5, 2004 23:50:43 GMT -5
Yes, that movie is actually out in the US in select cities. They have one cinema in Washington DC that's showing it so I'll be checking it out. Check your local cinemas. Better yet go to yahoo movies and look it up... look for times and tickets and enter your zip code.
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Post by nyujeelandsaram on Sept 6, 2004 2:13:13 GMT -5
Just saw shilmido on dvd in Korea. Good movie. Shame it's a true story though I heard the leader who committed suicide in the flick was actually beaten to death with a hammer and short sword in real life though.
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Post by SteveW on Sept 6, 2004 5:16:26 GMT -5
Yeah its on in LA at the minute. Saw it already when it came out in Korea. Pretty good technically but not anwhere near as good as it was hyped to be.
Didn't stop the women crying their eyes out though. But then they did that during tht bloody stupid Christ movie too.
Some people need slapped.
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Post by redneck13 on Sept 6, 2004 21:22:03 GMT -5
It was a fine movie. You'll understand the significance of the final part if you know there is a bronze statue of this part of the story in the 6.25 museum. It is of a North Korean soldier and a South Korean soldier embracing because they are brothers who were seperated during the chaos and found themselves in the battlefield. The movie ceased to be realistic from the part where the two main characters retreat back to Seoul, but still alright. One REALLY good thing I liked about the movie was it didn't fall into the classical Korean movie problem: turns into a cheesy love story between a guy and a girl. Thank God it didn't turn out that way this time. Well worth watching.
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Post by redneck13 on Sept 6, 2004 21:25:11 GMT -5
One thing that did make it awkward was how it was crammed... this project really should have been a 5 or 6 hour long miniseries.
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Post by Holyjoe on Oct 5, 2004 21:52:36 GMT -5
Taegukgi was, unsurprisingly, nominated by the Korean Film Council as Korea's representative film for a nomination to the Best Foreign Film category at the Oscars...
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Post by brandanlee26 on Oct 5, 2004 21:59:42 GMT -5
no one can bear the horrible situations that war bring to people of one ethnicity. This movie was deeper in ways that korean were fighting koreans. Teagukgi was by far the best and most intersting movie i have ever seen.
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Post by ironops on Oct 6, 2004 8:49:43 GMT -5
Just saw shilmido on dvd in Korea. Good movie. Shame it's a true story though Yeah, a shame, I agree. But it's BASED on a true story. I'm not just being pedantic here, let me explain. I think the makers of it rather pushed the "true story" aspect of it without initially intending to use any disclaimer about artisitic licence. Indeed, I read about a year ago that some relatives of people portrayed in the film were very unhappy about what they felt was the inaccurate representation of those characters and threatened legal action. Whether as a result of this, I don't know, but Silmido came out with an opening statement explaining that it was only based on real people and real events and was not to be taken as a exact portrayal thereof. Interestingly though, this statement was only in Korean and there were no Japanese subtitles for it in cinemas in Japan, nor were there any subtitles in English for it on the DVD, in spite of both being available for the rest of the film. Accidental omission or not, I'm not sure. Still, damn good film, I thought. Not a big fan of Taegukki, on the other hand. I can appreciate that it was well made and has an excellent appeal on the heartstrings or tear glands of lots of people who'll watch it. But not really my cup of bovril as it totally lost any kind of storyline credibilty in doing so.
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Post by SteveW on Oct 6, 2004 10:29:08 GMT -5
no one can bear the horrible situations that war bring to people of one ethnicity. This movie was deeper in ways that korean were fighting koreans. Teagukgi was by far the best and most intersting movie i have ever seen. Not sure about the ethnicity here....after all weren't the two world wars pretty much white europeans fighting white europeans?
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Post by brandanlee26 on Oct 7, 2004 0:45:17 GMT -5
i think one cant breakdown ethnicity to a two different things. I have always said that koreans were koreans and there should not be any differentiation between the koreans from the north and korean from the south. During the movie i always had a sick stomach because we were killing our brothers, ie north koreans.
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Post by Ed. on Oct 7, 2004 1:27:58 GMT -5
I heard last night that the decision on which film to submit for the Best Foreign Movie Oscar came down to a choice between Taegukgi and Kim Ki-duk's 빈집 (Empty House) - Pity the real director was elbowed aside in favour of Korea-Does-Hollywood.
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Post by nyujeelandsaram on Oct 7, 2004 6:48:13 GMT -5
I know all about the real story of shilmido.
Married to a Korean who went online as I sat there after watching the film and we sussed out what bits were accurate and what wasn't.
The commander on the island didn't commit suicide, rather he was bludgeoned and hacked to death with a hammer and short sword.
The soldiers weren't all prison scum. Half of them were just ordinary citizens. At the end they crashed into a tree and about 4 who were holding hand grenades dropped them and blew the bus to bits.
During training one of them drowns, one of them dies through blows received in a fight, two of them are shot after trying to escape, and three are shot after escaping and raping a woman in a nearby town.
The number of survivers is a bit cloudy but may have been up to 6. One of the three units captains died of wounds in hospital. I think the others were kind of snuck off to mental hospitals or similar type fates.
Amazing story though. If anything the real story is more nuts than the movie.
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Post by ironops on Oct 7, 2004 8:17:07 GMT -5
The soldiers weren't all prison scum. Half of them were just ordinary citizens. That's exactly right and from what I found out, this was one of the key things that led to the threat of legal action by the relatives. Good though I thought the film was overall, it was a little bit naughty (as I said, perhaps accidental) that they didn't give their overseas audiences, at least those with no knowledge of Korean, a clearer explanation of the background. To be honest, I think even the Korean disclaimer was a bit feeble.
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Post by redneck13 on Oct 10, 2004 16:27:13 GMT -5
"based on a true story" is a very difficult and sensitive thing to handle.
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