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Post by SteveW on Dec 19, 2004 11:29:00 GMT -5
Thats a bloody good result. Especially against a pretty strong GErman team (even though I dont know how serious they were being)
I have to defend the Asiad Stadium .... its a bloody impressive structure and the fact is it wasn't built as a football ground it was built for the Asian Games.
The running track does take away a lot but you are just as far from the pitch on the top deck of Sangam or elsewhere.
Was the staidum full? I've only been there when there are about 1000 people in and you can hardly see a crowd let alone hear one.
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Post by toohyper on Dec 19, 2004 16:52:50 GMT -5
Dear Santa Santa, All i want for this Christmas is for Korea to defeat Germany on the 19th of December. I want Germany to first humiliate Japan, and then let Korea humiliate Germany. I've been a good boy this year and i will be the happiest boy in the world if you fulfil my wish, which is total humiliation of Germany given by Republic of Korea. Thank you for reading my letter and i hope the weather up there in North Pole is not too bad these days. Love, toohyper Wow, SANTA RAWKS!!! I should write more often to Santa... ;D
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Post by MinnesotaUlsan on Dec 19, 2004 20:11:42 GMT -5
Thats a bloody good result. I have to defend the Asiad Stadium .... its a bloody impressive structure and the fact is it wasn't built as a football ground it was built for the Asian Games. The running track does take away a lot but you are just as far from the pitch on the top deck of Sangam or elsewhere. Was the staidum full? I've only been there when there are about 1000 people in and you can hardly see a crowd let alone hear one. I agree, it is a great looking stadium. No doubt about it. If it really wasn't built for football, then I understand. Like I said before I haven't been to many of the other stadiums in Korea. And I think I'm a bit spoiled by the stadium here in Ulsan. Yes it was packed. A few scattered empty seats way up at the top. But other than that the place was full. Like I said before, the crowd was into it the whole game. They never stopped cheering and singing. They really added to the atmosphere of the place.
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Post by Colombian on Dec 19, 2004 20:39:26 GMT -5
Ah, what a bittersweet experience last night, seeing the Asiad full- I'd say about 95%. Wonderful atmosphere for a game, but saddening when I think back to our club's attendance. I was sitting with an Argentinan player that willl play here next season, and with some of the staff. It was the first time for the Argentinan to see the stadium, and on one hand I'm glad that he got to see what its like in it's most glorious moment- a Korea international match, but now he knows that this city CAN attract a full stadium of football fans. One staff member commented that the crowd was equal to our season COMBINED attendance.
So the very perceptive Argentine asks me "Are Koreans just Nationalists?".......
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Post by Holyjoe on Dec 19, 2004 21:29:24 GMT -5
The Ulsan stadium is really nice, it reminded me of a typical European-style stadium not too dissimilar to the inside of Celtic Park (though not as horribly green.) Busan... well I saw Scotland get thumped there so I'll never like it
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Post by nyujeelandsaram on Dec 20, 2004 9:21:25 GMT -5
Cool game.
Quote of the night by German supporter to a friend of mine who this guy didn't even know (It was late in the game when it was about 2-1).
Harsh German accent: "There are too many niggas in the team. We only have nine players".
Also perhaps interesting to note that the East German supporters and West German supporters were in two different areas.
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Post by Ed. on Dec 20, 2004 10:03:11 GMT -5
Proof - if such were needed - of what nobheads those kind of people are. Asamoah nearly turned things around for them.
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Post by Colombian on Dec 20, 2004 10:27:59 GMT -5
wow! that german forgot that Klose is Polish (or something non-jerry like that)
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Post by IconsFanatic on Dec 20, 2004 15:07:43 GMT -5
Funny you mentioned the East-West German divide, as I was reading an article on the same subject just yesterday. It's spooky to think how long the Korean mental divide will last once the DMZ comes down.... perhaps forever. But back to football.... of the footie-specific stadia that I went to (Ulsan, Jeonbuk, Daejeon and Pohang), I'd say my favourite, in order, were: 1.) Pohang 2.) Daejeon 3.) Ulsan 4.) Jeonbuk Jeonbuk just seemed too damn big, despite not having a track. I'm still choked I never got to see Chunnam's stadium... bloody rain-outs and muppet refs who wait until your supporters' bus is 10 minutes away from the stadium before calling off the match..... Anyone ever get to Mipo's twin pitches (with no seating, I believe) before they moved to the Ulsan World Cup Auxiliary Stadium? I think it was Brazil who trained at Mipo's old pitches during the summer of 2002.....
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Post by w0lfwood on Dec 20, 2004 22:34:20 GMT -5
my opinion, but wen i saw this game it was as if Germany played around the whole match sort of
the passes they made were sorta crap its like they werent trying
but it still is a good result even if they werent trying ;D
o yea nd about lee dong-gook this guy is on FIRE or something - i wonder how WC2002 woouldve been if he was in the lineup
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Post by Ed. on Dec 21, 2004 0:20:52 GMT -5
Sorry to piss all over the Lee Dong-gook party, but I still think Hiddink made the right decision leaving him out. The lad's got a great record of scoring (a) in friendlies and (b) against poor opposition (think Choi Yong-soo, but better-looking). His latest run isn't all that remarkable or different and I still think he'd struggle against a decent, and motivated, defence.
I still remember Lee scoring an injury-time winner in a friendly against Nigeria in Busan in September 2001. I talked to a member of the coaching staff just after the final whistle. His reaction was "He'll be all over the front of the papers tomorrow morning, bu he did nothing for 90 minutes."
Fair enough, you can say his job is to score goals, but once you take the step up in class, you need 11 players contributing throughout the game, and there's no guarantee that any of the small handful of scoring chances you get will fall to Lee.
It's a pity, because I genuinely like him - he came across as a really good bloke when I interviewed him a few years back - but having watched him boom and bust so many times, I've all but abandoned hope of him ever being a world-class striker.
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Post by svo7 on Dec 21, 2004 0:42:54 GMT -5
Ed
So do you have a legitimate candidate to replace Lee Dong-guk in mind?
I personally haven't seen him make runs like that in years. Maybe it was because there was more space for him to move since our defense was pulled back. Anyway, to me at least, he no longer was that lump-dump slow arse goof-ball that we all see him as. He probably won;t be anything near a world class striker but maybe another Hwang Sun-hong ?
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Post by svo7 on Dec 21, 2004 0:46:35 GMT -5
So the very perceptive Argentine asks me "Are Koreans just Nationalists?"....... Ya know, I've generally seen you complain a lot and I agree with you all the time but you seem to blame everything on the Koreans - is the club doing anything to improve attendance ? A new marketting director, maybe?
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Post by MinnesotaUlsan on Dec 21, 2004 1:03:56 GMT -5
Seems to be some different opinions of Lee Dong-guk. He didn't look all that bad the other night. But I haven't followed the Korean National team as long as some of you guys have.
So let me throw this out there for you boys...If you don't play Lee Dong-guk up front, who do you play in his place?
My vote is the speedy young Ulsan Tiger Choi Sung-kuk, (yes I know he's considered too short to play against the big teams. And yes I'm a homer and favor the Ulsan guys, but I've seen him play quite a bit and he always looks pretty darn good.) Or how about playing guys like Kim Dong-hyun, or Namgung Do?
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Post by Ed. on Dec 21, 2004 1:42:19 GMT -5
Ed So do you have a legitimate candidate to replace Lee Dong-guk in mind? I want to say Jung Jo-gook. The problem is that they should have been prepping him for the spot for over a year at this stage. The lad's been sabotaged. He hasn't had half the professional experience he should have got by now, largely due to the fact that his boss (now jobless) was more interested in playing some really crap Brazilians. Meanwhile, Seoul had decided he was so important to their plans that they refused to release him for the Olympic team early this year. This means he's been largely ignored at both club and national level. Also, a three-and-a-half year contract meant there was no hope of Hiddink taking him to PSV, which he dearly wanted to do (but not at the price Seoul and the agent named). Jung has massive potential. He should, by now, have more than that, but he's being wasted due to poor coaching, poor decisions and a lack of vision. So I haven't answered the question on a replacement. At the same time, Lee did play well against Germany, but not well enough to convince me. And I'm not a Lee-hater - I tried for several years to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I'd be very pleased if he proved me wrong.
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